Suggestion for "Dual Avatar Memebership" plan

[Dinero Outlander]

I have proposed to Ilan that it might be an incentive to grow paid membership, and draw even more merchants to Kitely if there was some sort of "Dual Avatar Membership" plan. He suggested that it be a proffered here in the forums, to properly gauge member's reaction to the idea. Gain input on how much emphasis should or should not be placed on implementing some such program. And we all know Kitely always welcomes input and feedback on proposals. It must be said that I am interested to know what other's think and feel about it as well. My suggestion and reasoning’s for proposing the idea are as follows.

• For a some equitable extra Cost, Two (or possibly more) avatars would/could have unlimited time in-world, and Co-Own the same worlds. I do realize that there is the issue of using more server time and therefore increasing costs to Kitely, if both avatars, are online at the same time. However I am sure that there could be an equitable solution to resolve the extra incurred costs in some fashion. I.E. different plans when both will be online at the same time regularly.
• Many people who visit virtual worlds do so with their Real Life Significant other. Some may not be able to afford double accounts and that would possibly discourage them from coming to Kitely. They would be inclined to go somewhere they can afford two accounts and both use/own the same worlds.
• Practically every virtual world business owner I know whether they own game places, build, script, sell land, et cetera uses two avatars for various reasons. There are many reasons for doing so. These are some of the reasons I have had in the past.
• Inventory quickly piles up “my builder avatar” has the textures organizers, tutorials, scripts etc. The non-builder avatars have the clothes houses toys and other various inventory items.
  People like to work for some duration of time and then go play without "work calling" (messages about product support or product requests) and interrupting fun.
• It is easier to track profit or loss, and search transactions history if one avatar only! Has control over all income/expense funds. For example Marketplace, store sales, services, game etc. income, Paying out tier/rent for store or land (when applicable), buying supplies, giving prizes for events, paying game winners, employees etc.
• Some business owners such as I, have found that when running multiple businesses it is much easier to have different avatars control each one. That way I know if “Bob Business owner” always has Cash growing, his business plan is working and needs no great amount of change. If however “Bill Businessowner” seems to always borrow from Bob to meet expenses, something is wrong and needs adjustment.
• In some cases projects aren't able to be competed or done well by one person. Two or more people are required with separate skills or talents to complete a product or project and do it well. (No I am not saying that some people can't do it all. I was saying I am not one of them, Jade/Inga and I work together on almost everything we make. We both have separate, different programs and skills. God only knows what I would do without, her much more diplomatic than I skills. I would be totally lost without my lovely wifeh ). It would be cheaper on a partnership if they could share costs for memberships.
• Finally, total Group memberships are limited, and even though 42 sounds like a lot (in Kitely group membership allowance is 100, so it would be much longer before this became an issue). It is not a lot of them when one joins all of the groups that one desires for a specialty, whether it be a role play style, a lifestyle like dance clubs, groups to spam products or builder, scripter groups et cetera. Almost no avatar I own in SL has a free group slot.

These are my thoughts on this.. Please express opinions, or make suggestions. Any feedback to this proposal is welcomed

[Marstol Nitely]

That's actually very interesting. My RL and VR husband are one and the same. I don't find it hard to cover his costs because he doesn't spend much time in VR. But I know of others who have had problems in SL and other grids because both individuals are highly invested in holding virtual properties together, but don't have the same privileges . I've also seen difficulties when an owner is not allowed to pass off complete management to someone they have hired to look after their interests. While I understand the legal ramifications for grid owners, if the actual owner of a VR property wants to share those rights, I think the decision should be theirs. I think this might be something for Kitely to consider as long as it isn't a liability for them.

[Adagio Greenwood]

Yes, that would be a great option! I don't see myself making use of it but you never know.......

[Bladyblue Bommerang]

Perhaps there can be a way to register one 'sub' avatar under a main account that receives the same membership plan perks as the main avatar on the account. Maybe a $7 USD one-time setup fee to create the sub.

[Marstol Nitely]

Hi all,

Adding multiple alts to the same account is actually already supported by our backend but isn't currently being offered to end users as it requires some work on control panel changes that we can't justify doing before we finish developing the marketplace. This allows people to be able to switch between avatars and share the same plan and KC. Giving multiple alts permissions on the same objects can be somewhat tricky and cause various content creator/owner issues. We therefore give each alt its own inventory and only one of the alts can be active inworld at any given point in time (you can obviously create separate accounts to be used for alts but that isn't what this thread is proposing).

We aren't likely to offer group accounts that allow you to share Minutes between different people that are active at the same time as the cost of Minutes is based on them being used by a single user to keep at most a single server active at a time. That said, you can already have multiple people sharing expenses and control over a world by creating a world in one account and setting up that world to offer free access to a group containing the desired people. By then setting various permissions inworld for that group, you can get one person paying for a group of people who share permissions on the world and things created in it.

[Donna Eason]

Hi Ilan,
I've read your post about multiple avatars. Because the marketplace is now constructed, is that option to have dual avatar membership now available?

Thanks!
Donna

[Ilan Tochner]

Hi Donna,

The option for multiple avatars per account has not been enabled yet. Please note that, in any case, items bought in Kitely Market are for a particular avatar not for a particular user account so having multiple avatars in the same account won't grant you additional rights to content you bought with no-transfer permissions.