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recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:04 pm
by Avia Bonne
Hi all,

I am quiet new in Kitely, just popped in today, but have seen already a wonderfull world created by users, well done!!

One thing I noticed and I felt the need to critisize it here ;-)
On the website, when you start, there is a popupscreen with recommended viewers, which show only two, Teapot and Imprudence.
Since Imprudence doens't support Mesh, I would remove that one and replace it with any other Meshviewer.
I logged in as a newbie with Imprudence and couldn't see the half of the startersregion for this.
So maybe one can change that so other newbies also see the whole region?

Anyway, nice to be here and let's create!

Greetz,
Avia

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:13 pm
by Constance Peregrine
heyu..lol..

You can start your own preferred viewer without going thru the website except to get ur password.

click on your world page, then click your name, then settings then show viewer login details

that will show ur password and the login uri

uncheck "Use Kitely Plugin to launch the viewer automatically "

i do this as i use the Astra viewer, which is mesh-enabled also-))

I may have missed something here but I am sure ilan will chime in eventually...

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm
by Ilan Tochner
Welcome to Kitely Avia :-)

The Kitely account Settings page only shows viewers that are installed on your computer in their default installation directory. The default viewer the Kitely Plugin selects, when it's available, is the OpenSim-compatible version of the Firestorm viewer (which does support mesh).

For details on the Kitely Plugin and the viewers it supports, please see: http://www.kitely.com/startviewers

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:24 pm
by Avia Bonne
Hi Both, thanks for your reply, and yes I know I can use my own viewer ;-)
But my concern is that most newbies use the recommended ones on the website, and one of them (Impru) is not showing all the details inworld, so that's why I wrote this message ;-)

Personally I would remove the Impru as a recomendence ;-)

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:47 pm
by Ilan Tochner
Hi Avia,

It only shows the supported viewers people have installed, and it defaults to v2/v3 viewers before it selects v1 viewers such as Imprudence. If a person doesn't have any supported viewer installed then the Enter World button will provide them with an installer for the OpenSim-compatible version of Firestorm.

The reason we enabled the Kitely Plugin to use Imprudence is that Imprudence has built-in inventory backup and restore functionality that many people use to import things they created on other grids into Kitely. See: http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/wiki/Imprud ... ent_Backup

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:01 pm
by Bladyblue Bommerang
Avia Bonne wrote:Hi all,

I am quiet new in Kitely, just popped in today, but have seen already a wonderfull world created by users, well done!!

Greetz,
Avia
Hey Avia, it was great running into you this morning in Kitely Plaza. Thanks for accepting my invite to check it out. I hope you bring your wonderful artwork to Kitely also!

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:59 pm
by Avia Bonne
Thanx Ilan, I didn't know about the backup option in Impru, must be very usefull.
I only find it annoying I could not see all objects at the welcomearea when I started ;-) When I changed into Singularity it was there totally ;-)

Bladyblue, fun that will be, hope to enter soon again and see what we can do ;-)

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:44 pm
by Ada Radius
My own observation, after importing and building here for a few months, is that Imprudence is best if you need to import xml files (avatar layers or prim builds), or create avatar system layers, like skins, but it's not good for anything else, particularly Talk. The Firestorm version that works in OS grids is too buggy for skin making. Horrible, in fact. But everything else works well. If you're importing mesh (dae) files or want to view mesh builds, then you of course must use one of the viewers that does that, like Firestorm. I'm also using an older version of Phoenix occasionally for exporting character mesh files in obj format, and a version of Dolphin for pretty screenshots and screen capture. All of the other viewers I've tried (Cool Viewer, Singularity, Kokua so far) have had a missing feature that I wanted; and I'm sorry that I didn't keep a list of what they were.

Maybe, later on, a central place to keep information on the pros and cons of the myriad viewers to direct people to, that newcomers will find easily? We're repeating ourselves a lot on this subject in the forums.

Re: recommended viewers

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:03 pm
by Constance Peregrine