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Does anyone have experience (positive) with sharing a desktop screen in Kitely via a browser-on-prim? This ability would certainly expand my use of a virtual environment for my classes.

I have tried join.me, fuxebox, and a few others. When I navigate to the meeting location in Kitely I get a blank screen.

Just curious.

I used to use join.me (until they capped viewer numbers) but not via shared media -- although that used to work in SL iirc.
[Incidentally, join.me annotation available at Premium level appears to work although desktop display doesn't]

Did you try screenleap.com? I had no luck with join.me just now -- and it kept adding viewers. Screenleap at least let me view the laptop screen on my Nexus 7 2012 even if display on a prim inworld exceeded the viewer numbers permitted for use without registering (i.e. two). The unregistered version is also a little slow.

Graham

Doc Phair wrote:Does anyone have experience (positive) with sharing a desktop screen in Kitely via a browser-on-prim? This ability would certainly expand my use of a virtual environment for my classes.

I have tried join.me, fuxebox, and a few others. When I navigate to the meeting location in Kitely I get a blank screen.

Just curious.

mikogo.com seems to work after a fashion although it requires the presenter to login. Logging-in a second user to the prim worked but was inevitably subject to the hall of mirrors effect and slowed as a consequence. Desktop display looked as though it might be OK though I ended up having to refresh the prim at frequent intervals.

I have to say that none of this constitutes "a positive experience". If anyone else has a solution, please share.

Graham Mills wrote:I used to use join.me (until they capped viewer numbers) but not via shared media -- although that used to work in SL iirc.

Did you try screenleap.com? I had no luck with join.me just now -- and it kept adding viewers. Screenleap at least let me view the laptop screen on my Nexus 7 2012 even if display on a prim inworld exceeded the viewer numbers permitted for use without registering (i.e. two). The unregistered version is also a little slow.

Graham

Doc Phair wrote:Does anyone have experience (positive) with sharing a desktop screen in Kitely via a browser-on-prim? This ability would certainly expand my use of a virtual environment for my classes.

I have tried join.me, fuxebox, and a few others. When I navigate to the meeting location in Kitely I get a blank screen.

Just curious.

Yes, I tried screenleap. It's very inconsistent and sloooow. Thanks for responding though! I'll have to check out mikogo.com. It's really strange to me that there isn't a good solution out there!

I think you need to look carefully at which plugins the sharer's use...

If you're referring to Java, some of the screensharing software is Java-based but many of the display clients aren't. Of course, the display clients may not be compatible with OpenSim for other reasons. Anyone tried Adobe Connect?

Dundridge Dreadlow wrote:I think you need to look carefully at which plugins the sharer's use...

Adobe Connect requires a client installation and is not browser based. I use Adobe Connect as a tool provided by the University. I end up sharing my Kitely screen in Adobe Connect. Would love for it to be the other way around.

Graham Mills wrote:If you're referring to Java, some of the screensharing software is Java-based but many of the display clients aren't. Of course, the display clients may not be compatible with OpenSim for other reasons. Anyone tried Adobe Connect?

Dundridge Dreadlow wrote:I think you need to look carefully at which plugins the sharer's use...

LiveLook.com appears to be promising as it doesn't require any downloads or installs on the client side. I'm in communication with them at the moment to see if I can get a trial period to test it out. It's not free, and not exactly inexpensive either. But, if it works well (consistency and performance) I might give it a go.

I'll post back here on my findings for others who might also be interested.

I made a discovery today after tinkering and searching a bit...

As it turns out, OSX Mavericks and Flash 11.9 have issues when it comes to presenting flash-based stuff in Firestorm (and apparently Singularity). I noticed this when I was playing around with another prim I have that plays a YouTube video. All I got was sound and a blank screen.

The fix for Flash is to uninstall Flash and install 11.7. Worked like a charm.

I then went back and tested join.me again (a free account allows you to broadcast to up to 9 participants). While it was a bit slow, it worked well. Join.me also has a control on the page for full-screen mode. Entering that in my region actually worked nicely.

I'll stick with join.me for now. The challenge will be the configuration of my visitors. But, I'm happy with what I've been able to do so far.

Interesting, I thought Adobe Connect used Flash. RHUB's TurboMeeting (and the similar GoMeetNow) require the host to install an application, but attendees can join the meeting in a browser even if Flash is not installed. TM and GMN both rank a couple notches ahead of Adobe Connect: https://www.webconferencing-test.com/