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Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:16 pm
by Marstol Nitely
Hi Roxy - I've been looking for some inspiration for my next build and you may have just given it to me. I can't get started right away because my computer had a meltdown and is in need of parts and repair. I'm using a throw-away laptop that a friend gave me in the mean time. I could probably get started on making them in a week or so, but there's still the problem of scripting and animation. I'll ask around about those. Can't promise anything, but I will try.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:22 pm
by Ozwell Wayfarer
Like I said, I totally feel your pain. There are lots of things I wish I had over here. While I can build most things, complex scripting and animating is something I find very frustrating.

I really think your best chance would be to get your group in SL to ALL (or as many as possible) to message a creator of such items en masse, saying that your community would like to move out to Kitely, would they consider listing a few items up on the Kitely Market? One person can easily be dismissed, but 10-20+ people together would have a much greater impact I think.

I can understand if you dont want to do that, but I certainly thing that is your best bet for getting a decent result.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:50 pm
by Dot Matrix
I've just been chatting with an HG visitor to the KWC who has made both acoustic and electric guitars on his own grid. He will try to get in touch with Roxy.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:35 pm
by Marstol Nitely
That's great Dot. You should see if he will put them on the Market. I'd be interested in buying something like that. In the meantime, it's back to the drawing board for inspiration. If anybody has any ideas drop me an IM - Please!

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:03 am
by Roswenthe Blackwell
Roxy Gellar wrote:one of my favorite musicians suggested this... it's a SL program. But maybe exportable?

http://qavimator.org/
I have a guitar animation I sent to Marstol.

If you use a program, I'd recommend Daz 3D over QAvimator. It's way better in general, and isn't specific to SL.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:26 am
by Handy Low
Roxy Gellar wrote:one of my favorite musicians suggested this... it's a SL program. But maybe exportable?

http://qavimator.org/
Wow, I didn't know that was back under development - it was the first animation program I used.

Unless something weird has changed, it works fine with OpenSim as well as SL. Effectively, there's no difference between the two in terms of creating animations.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:19 am
by Dot Matrix
And it's available for Mac and Linux as well as Windows! :)

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:57 am
by Roswenthe Blackwell
Handy Low wrote:Effectively, there's no difference between the two in terms of creating animations.
There is quite a bit of difference between them in terms of use and options. Both are free, and both have Win/Mac versions, so that's not really an issue.

I would say qAvimator is good for static poses, and is easier to use. If you want to do any kind of motion in your animation, Daz 3D is far superior. Daz has a sort of movie-making studio for animations that lets you measure in detail the motion of the animation.

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:11 pm
by Handy Low
Roswenthe Blackwell wrote:
Handy Low wrote:Effectively, there's no difference between the two in terms of creating animations.
There is quite a bit of difference between them in terms of use and options. Both are free, and both have Win/Mac versions, so that's not really an issue.
I'm talking about the difference between creating animations for SL and for OpenSim. I think you're talking about something else (QAvimator vs Daz3d, perhaps?).

Re: What Products are Missing on Kitely ???

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:51 pm
by Carlos Loff
Roxy Gellar wrote:As far as going through the trouble of contacting SL creators and hoping for the best? I think it was said earlier that one individual isn't going to hold much sway.

I feel like Chicken Little, "The guitars are needed! The guitars are needed." I still have faith in a SL creator's interest in Kitely and Kitely creators eventually stepping up.

Heck at this point, I'll give it a try myself and put off my world until I see some tangible results from someone in the picture. Maybe IF SL 1.0 goes away people will sing a different tune?

Until that time, this may be the Universal reply for SL. A shame, he makes some fine looking instruments.

[08:26] Supershine Zapedzki: (Saved Mon 22 Sep 2014 06:54:42) sorry but it's really not worth my while going into these other grids as the numbers are so small...i have already looked into it
[08:26] Supershine Zapedzki: (Saved Mon 22 Sep 2014 06:55:48) i'd also have to build the guitars from scratch and also i don't own the animations either so just would not be worth it...sorry
[08:28] Roxy Roller (roxygellar): Disappointing but understandable, Super.

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/33063/
Hi I will send you some guitars I found ob HG in case they are transfer

But I don't know if you are aware that there is a Guitar Museum World at Kitely, here - http://www.kitely.com/virtual-world/odd ... tar-Museum

Hope I helped, cheers