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[Constance Peregrine]

I don't understand what is going on, but I enjoy the Performers you have brought here Roxy.

I do find it sad the low attendance and think you and the Performers are good troupers for keeping at it. I understand there will come a point where it is not worth the effort, which will sadden me then also.

It is really hard to get attendees though, even in so-called busy grids it is, I know, as I used to host them. To many options, people busy on their own projects, ppl just wanting to relax "their own way", is, I suppose, at issue.

Russell Eponym performs once a month in Metropolis, and the attendance is rather mediocre to my eyes, running about 10-20 ppl, and it is promoted even to SL and around the Meta as best can be done, I think...so I have no answers but know that any side issues need to be put to bed, it is off-putting to ppl who are mostly here to relax from hectic lives.

Nevertheless, I will attend all those I can as life lets me....hugss

[Constance Peregrine]

Couldn't agree more Constance. Thing is I don't even know what the side issues are!

NMA has stated they are looking at the long run and the big picture. I'm happy to host the artists interested in performing in open sims.

And as you mentioned one of the most popular singers across virtual reality has issues with attendance in open sims.

Brings me back to my original conclusion. But as long as the artists I've been working with are okay with Kitely lack of attendance?

Fine by me.

Russell just does it for the love of it, really. I have known him several years and originally got him to check out Metropolis. One primary difference than yours is he does them for free. Typical of some of us who roam the Meta the commercial aspect is a bit of turn-off.

I think he made an account here but never performed. But, really, if one is performing in any hypergrid enabled place it hardly matters where they choose to present their avatar.

Nevertheless, for myself, I choose to attend for the relaxing aspect of hearing live singers, and of course I do understand many performers do this for any income they can get to either supplement or fully cover their own quality of life.

But it is not just these ppl, Seachai hardly gets any attendance and are really nice about it also. If it is just me I always feel unworthy of their time, but when I mention I could go do something else and they could also, most times they wish to perform regardless. I think that is nice of them but it does still embarrass me a bit.

I do see places that generally get good attendance but the hosts are ppl who have been around for years and it is generally DJ stuff [which I don't mind when there are ppl talking about things and having a nice time]. The Close Encounter ppl throw a each friday party [now back in OSG, were in Metro during the downtime] and when I have attended there is generally 30-40 ppl there.

There are others similar.

So the issue is not that there are not enough people to attend, really, as they do when so inclined. It has to be a combination of several factors...absolutely no drama is a paramount one outside of SL as many who are roaming around often still use SL and can certainly attend events there...but for the drama [and griefers].

It might also be knowing they can plan for something. So many come and go I would say most if not all of us don't place much value in an event happening as advertised, more often than not.

So, attendance CAN be good, if several factors come into play.

For myself, I have to strictly moderate how much I do, perhaps for others this might also be an issue.

[Constance Peregrine]

That's where you are wrong Constance. I've booked and hosted Russell. He charges a fee from the venue. And that has no consequence on attendance.

Whether a venue pays a fee or not has nothing to do with attendance. Events are always free.

Also you seem confused as to what constitutes good attendance saying he doesnt get good attendance and then citing other events with less

turn out stating good attendance is possible.

It seems that two hours twice a month by artists equal to Russell's statue and ability may be more than Kitely can support. However, NMA has stated they are supporting the long view.

So far it's been rather clear that open sims are not really capable of sustaining a music community. Any time of the day from 9AM PST to 12AM PST

any number of venues usually at least three to four are hosting to moderate audiences elsewhere. Clearly that is not possible in the open sims.

Apologies for not being more clear about Russell. He does perform in Metropolis for no fee and, of course, no tips as Metro has no currency. He also does not use any paypal box.

Of course that does not have any relationship to venue attendance, it was just anecdotal small talk, really. Just discussing one performer I know of well in OpenSim.

He would charge here also I suspect, and SL is his living. In any case, no big deal on that.

Events Zaphod enoch has hosted I "think" he pays them in lindens. There are no tips and no talk of money for the attendees...he used to get [and hopefully will again] 10-20 or so attendees, often the lesser.

In any case, I was just mentioning stuff.

I do think once every two weeks is better for what you are doing, at least for me it was difficult to attend the once a week ones regularly, tho I gave it a good try. Same with Seanchai and others around the Meta....but that's just me, I enjoy live music.

I don't really understand the rest of what you are saying, so perhaps we should just leave it at that and move along.

All I think mainly is that if people are not enjoying what they are doing, or things are not what they expect, that perhaps it is better to find those things that do give them pleasure. Not to you specifically, but trying to make something happen that simply won't happen for all sorts of reasons isn't my idea of fun.

hugsss

[Serene Jewell]

My attendance at live music events has mostly to do with my work schedule. I work for myself, but when I have a project and the client wants to meet or talk, that takes precedence over everything. I also attended a lot of events in the beginning of the music offerings even when that type of music wasn't my favorite as a way of supporting the efforts of the venue and musicians. I was hoping the regularity of the concerts would encourage more newcomers, but that didn't happen and I eventually stopped going to those that weren't my cup of tea. My observation was that big crowds came for ambient/electronic music and much smaller crowds came for the live folk and blues singers. I don't have any conclusions, just what I noticed.

[Serene Jewell]

By the way, Roxie. Were you saying you were blocked from the Kitely G+ group? I'm a moderator there and didn't see anything about that. I'm happy to check into it. I'll take a look and get back to you.

Update: Issue may have had something to do with Google's automated shutout if you block a G+ group moderator.
Update 2: Roxy, try again, group owner had to flip a switch.

[Selby Evans]

Small Attendance: NMA is not concerned about this at this point, except as it may disappoint the performers. We need to be looking for ways of outreach to the Hypergrid. There is not yet enough of an audience in Kitely to expect the attendance we want. We need to look for outlets, such as Opensim Virtual:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities ... 2234467612
that have wide reach in the hypergrid